Mason and Hellena from Senza join us this week on the podcast. We chat about everything from silly podcasts to video games, origin stories, 9/11, the Portland scene, bandswithnameslikethis, vocal technique, mystery bass tones, recording & re recording, anti facist music, the celestial body explained, gay album art, new music to come, ZBR fest, Cali Kicks fest, little things coming, tournament standard melee, wave dashing, project M, drunk climbing, getting zorched, stupid lawyers, hot music takes and so much more.