This is a surprisingly uplifting conversation about climate change—yes, really. I spoke with psychologist Dr Susie Burke on managing climate distress (anger, sadness, anxiety) while staying hopeful, because unchecked, these feelings often lead to apathy just when we need action most. After recent events, this episode feels especially timely. With years of experience in climate psychology, Dr. Susie offers practical insights for managing eco-anxiety and other intense emotions, reminding us that positive change is happening elsewhere and within our reach. This episode is a breath of fresh air for anyone overwhelmed by constant climate news. In this episode, we cover: The perception gap: why more people care about climate change than you might think The mental health impact of climate change and why eco-anxiety is normal Strategies to cope with climate emotions, from small practical steps to collective action How shifting business and consumer behavior can drive more change than waiting for governments Why we are the first generation with a real shot at creating a sustainable world How to support children in understanding and feeling empowered about environmental issues Key Quotes: “Climate distress isn’t just anxiety—it’s a whole mix of emotions like guilt, anger, and sadness that are natural responses to a real crisis.” “We have never been closer to achieving a sustainable world. For the first time, sustainability means a healthy life for all and an end to environmental destruction. We can make this happen.” More About Dr. Susie Burke Check out her website here More about Hannah Ritchie Author of Not the End of the World, check out her website and books here More about The Conceivable Future Written by Meghan Elizabeth Kallman and Josephine Ferorelli, their website is here Tedx Talk: Changing the World: Why it Fails and What Works By Winnifred Louis, watch it here You can get involved with the podcast online: Find our full podcast via the website: https://www.nowthatswhaticall.com/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/nowthatswhaticallgreen/ Follow me on social media: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/briannemwest/ TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@briannemwest LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/briannemwest/ For our latest big project, find out more about Incrediballs here: https://incrediballs.com/