Ocean Matters is getting down to business. That’s the business of investing in the ocean, its future as well as the communities that rely on it. There are lots of existing financial tools that make the world go round, so how can we use them to protect the ocean without reducing it to a number on the balance sheet? Plus, it's coming up to the end of the year so what were the big ocean successes of 2022? In this episode, Dr Helen Czerski speaks with Karen Sack, Executive Director of the Ocean Risk and Resilience Action Alliance (ORRAA). ORRAA is a global multi-stakeholder alliance working around the world to drive investments into coastal and ocean resilience and nature. Ocean Matters is a Fresh Air production for the Bertarelli Foundation. The producer is Izzie Clarke. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.