The summer is well and truly over! On a drizzly London day, Jane and Fi chat canine bed intruders, papal fashion and why 5'7" might just be the ideal height.
Plus, Fi speaks to Mark Russell, CEO of the Children's Society, about how some schools should be doing more to make school uniforms affordable.
Our next book club pick has been announced! 'The Trouble with Goats and Sheep' by Joanna Cannon.
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Assistant Producer: Guy Emanuel
Podcast Producer: Eve Salusbury
Executive Producer: Rosie Cutler
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