In this episode, we are joined by Debbie Wallen as we delve into the complexities of ultra-processed foods and their impact on health. The discussion opens with Debbie's journey towards a cleaner diet and provides a deep dive into the challenges and necessities of reducing ultra-processed food consumption. We debate the food industry's role and the importance of government intervention and share strategic insights on the role of product development in consciously reducing the use of ultra-processed foods.