Bill Cosby had an enormous impact on the culture of the United States. He was a comedian, an educator, and a father figure, but accusations of sexual misconduct by 60 women, and his subsequent conviction and then release from prison in June 2021, have cast his legacy into a new light. Colin Ellis and Nam Kiwanuka discuss why it's so complicated to talk about Bill Cosby, and why it's necessary right now. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.