Ben and Mark can find nothing with the emotional complexity to compare with It Takes You Away and so pair it with another story featuring a frog on a chair, Four to Doomsday. Comparing Jodie Whittaker with Peter Davison sparks some interesting discussions about the regard which each of their eras are held. Is the frog on the chair the most Doctor Who moment in post-2005 Doctor Who? ALSO: Kwuok Facts! A Degsey's Ding-Dong Ping-Pong upset! A golden shower from Stratford Johns! You can read Mark's Doctor Who lists here. You can hear Ray Charles' melancholy Kermit the Frog cover here.  Support the show (https://www.buymeacoffee.com/onthetimelash)