We're thrilled to welcome Rene van den Bedem from Microsoft, a true expert in his field. Prepare to be enlightened as Double VCDX #090 meets Quadruple VCDX #133 in a riveting conversation that centers around the groundbreaking Azure VMware Solution (AVS). Join us as we dive deep into the world of cloud transformation and the unique value that emerges from the fusion of the hyperscaler and hypervisor model. In this episode, we navigate the challenges and opportunities that come with transitioning to the cloud. Rene's insights shed light on the intricacies of this journey, offering valuable guidance to those considering or embarking on cloud migration. If you're curious about the latest innovations in cloud solutions, eager to grasp the synergy between hyperscale platforms and hypervisors, and seeking practical insights into cloud migration, this episode is a must-watch. Hit that subscribe button to stay tuned for more thought-provoking conversations and informative discussions. Like, share, and drop your questions in the comments section below. Thank you for joining us as we uncover the future of cloud transformation!