The Full Stack Journey podcast is talking about network automation, this time with Matt Oswalt (@mierdin on Twitter) and Christian Adell (@chadell0 on Twitter). Both Matt and Christian are deeply involved in network automation, and are also co-authors with yours truly (Scott, the host) on the second edition of O’Reilly’s Network Programmability and Automation book, available now in early release. Scott grills Matt and Christian about topics such as: * The current state of network automation * Challenges individual practitioners face trying to embrace network automation * How  an individual practitioner figures out that “first step” * Organizational challenges of leveraging network automation * How all these things affected the second edition of the book Links to resources mentioned during the podcast are listed below. Sponsor: ITProTV Start or grow your IT career with online IT training from IT Pro TV. It’s never too late to start a new career in IT or move up the ladder, and IT Pro TV has you covered: from CompTIA and Cisco to EC Council and Microsoft, there’s more than 5,800 hours of on-demand training. Full Stack Journey listeners can sign up and save 30% off all plans! Visit itpro.tv/FULL and use promo code FULL at checkout. Show Notes: @mierdin – Matt Oswalt on Twitter @chadell0 – Christian Adell on Twitter Oswalt.dev – Matt Oswalt’s blog Christian Adell’s LinkedIn Full Stack Journey 56: Network Automation Progress and Problems – Packet Pushers