This episode is one that has been kicking about in the PATM vault for a few months as I have waited for the project to show up on Kickstarter. I chatted with Luke, the creator of Upzone. Upzone is a range of car pop up terrain for tabletop wargaming. I dont know how I saw it, but I did and I was instantly interested in the story and genesis of it. Make sure you check out the link even just to appreciate the idea and invention of it.    I really enjoyed getting to know Luke, as mentioned we talked a good while ago and a lot has changed for him, partnering with a publisher was a big step, and as I record the KS campaign is into the 200,000+ dollars bracket. A real success story for a gent who just did something productive during his COVID lockdown time. Awesome.  https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/everythingepicgames/upzone-the-pop-up-wargaming-and-rpg-terrain-system?ref=discovery&term=upzone