So this podcast is split into two parts. First, I had the pleasure of speaking to Mickey Arthur, the former Pakistan Head Coach, for a few minutes on Zoom at the end of a long media day for his current team, Derbyshire. We spoke about the intelligence of players like Babar Azam, Shadab Khan, and Fakhar Zaman as well as the recent changes made to the Pakistani domestic structure. In the second part, I was able to go in-depth into the topic of Pakistani coaches with the brilliant cricket journalist and commentator, Kamran Muzaffer (https://twitter.com/Krick3r). Just FYI, later this month I will be releasing an interview with Azhar Mahmood on a similar topic.