Support us: https://www.palestinedeepdive.com/support Tariq Ali argues recognising Palestine as a state "means nothing" and that what states should really be implementing is the de-recognition of Israel. Tariq Ali is a writer and filmmaker. He has written more than a dozen books on world history and politics—including Pirates of the Caribbean, Bush in Babylon, The Clash of Fundamentalisms and The Obama Syndrome. Winston Churchill: His Times, His Crimes is his latest. He's also written five novels in his Islam Quintet series and scripts for the stage and screen. He is an editor of the New Left Review. Mark Seddon is a former UN Correspondent for Al Jazeera English TV and Editor of Tribune. He has also worked as a Speechwriter for former United Nations Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon.