Our episode today is jam-packed with great conversation and thought-provoking content. We start off the show with a quick chat to broaden the conversation on the value of learning, with VSV managing partner, Jenny Gou. We then dive into our interview with Neal Bawa, aka The Mad Scientist. Neal is the CEO and Founder at UGro and Grocapitus, two commercial real estate investment companies. Neal’s company’s use cutting edge, real estate analytics technology to source, acquire, and build large commercial properties across the US. Neal is an incredible educator with tons of content on his website. As you tune in, you’ll get valuable insights into what’s happening in the economy and real estate markets, we talk about interest rates, SOFRs, and spreads, and the influence they have. Neal shares what they are focusing on in terms of product types and their predictions for cap rates, he also shares a harrowing death story from his real estate journey. For all this, and more, tune in now!  Key Points From This Episode: How Neal got the nickname The Mad Scientist. We dive into one of the big issues of today; Neal’s thoughts on the economy.Neal’s thoughts on the timing of how interest rate increases impact the economy.We talk about SOFRs and spreads and their impact.What is required for spreads to drop; what lenders need to watch for.Grocapitus’ perspective of making investments now; pencils up or down and why.Their predictions for cap rates.The product type they’re most focused on for the next 9 months.His thoughts on the Facebook/ Google layoffs (etc.,) as an indicator of something ominous ahead.A harrowing death story from Neal’s real estate journey; dealing with seemingly insurmountable challenges.Where Neal would invest a million dollars, outside of physical real estate. Links Mentioned in Today’s Episode: Neal Bawa on LinkedIn Neal Bawa on Instagram Multifamily University Jenny Gou on LinkedIn VSV Conference 2023 Vertical Street Ventures  VSV Academy  Passive Income Through Multifamily Real Estate Facebook Group Peter Pomeroy on LinkedIn Peter Pomeroy Email