This week we listen in on a debate from the PICS 2024 Symposium that occurred two weeks ago in San Diego. Today's debate is between master surgeon, Professor of Surgery at UCLA, Dr. Glen S. Van Arsdell taking the position of superiority of primary TOF repair and going up against Dr. Van Arsdell is noted master interventional cardiology expert, Professor of Pediatrics at Baylor College of Medicine, Dr. Athar M. Qureshi. Prepare for a spirited 'debate' between these two experts in their field. Apologies in advance for some sound deficiencies but the orators can be heard clearly enough to allow for an engaging back and forth and learning experience. Has either speaker swayed you? Take a listen!