Series 2 Episode 17 of The Penteract Podcast, hosted by Anthony Etherin. In this episode, Anthony speaks with writer, copywriter, and poet Nick Asbury. Topics of conversation include the politics of the poetry world, concepts and constraints, songwriting, branding, self-directed learning, and authority. Check out https://asburyandasbury.com/, for examples of Nick's work in branding and details on his books, including Realtime Notes and Perpetual Disappointments Diary. Read Nick's Substack here. Read Anthony's Substack here. Follow this podcast on Twitter and discover more about Penteract Press by visiting its website and its Twitter. And, if you like what you hear, please support this series via Anthony’s Patreon page! Support the show