In this episode Kaila and Kyle are joined by Morning Brew’s SVP Head of People Operations, Kate Noel, to discuss the matter of taking vacation at work—how much paid time off is too much? Is there a minimum amount of PTO you should be taking per year? Is unlimited vacation a great perk or a scam? 00:00 Open 00:22 Intro 03:46 Stats on Americans use of PTO 05:47 How Kate Noel thought through creating Morning Brew’s vacation policy 07:03 How unlimited PTO can be a scam 13:00 Why the culture around a PTO policy is important 20:00 Reframing time off for subscribers to “hustle culture” 22:13 More Harris Poll stats on employee behavior 27:11 Common misconceptions about HR 30:26 Tactics The Harris Poll Thought Leadership Practice Want to get all of Kaila & Kyle’s resources? Subscribe: https://www.permylastemailshow.com/  Watch Per My Last Email on YouTube:    @PerMYLastEmailShow Follow Per My Last Email Instagram: @permylastemailshow TikTok: @permylastemailshow Twitter: @permylast_email Have a question for us? Send us an email or voice note to [email protected] Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices