Matt and Ben are joined by Colin O'Dell, staff engineer at Wayfair and supporter of the twitter dividing Dynamic Properties RFC to discuss what this RFC really means for PHP going forward and if its really a good idea.

Ben and Matt catch up since its been a minute since it's just the two of them have talked. They talk all kinds of things about life, conferences, getting hit by a car and how to best impersonate Chuck Norris style rolls.