There's a lot going on in the build, pipeline, CI/CD, supply chain space - so much so that there's all these phrases for the concept. Dagger.io is taking stab (hahahahah...) at builds and pipelines.  In this episode, Alex Willians of The New Stack and Coté talk with Solomon Hykes to answer the question "what is Dagger?" We also discuss platform engineering, the concept of programable pipelines, and how Dagger wants you to think. You can also see the video of the demo Solomon gave before this interview and the interview here. This interview was recorded at VMware Explore 2022.