This episode is the second part of our interview with the painter Sven Loven, in which we continue to discuss his artistic process, his spiritual practice, and the ways in which these overlap and intersect. We cover Robert Anton Wilson, Asclepian dream rituals, and more pretty out-there type stuff. Also, a brief correction—at some point Sven refers to a movie from the '80s about Haitian voodoo. I can't remember what he calls it, but the actual title is The Serpent and the Rainbow.