It's been so long...just kidding, it's been a week! That's the normal time between episodes. Nevertheless, we're back with Paul Schrader's first film he "didn't" write himself, the 1982 erotic horror remake CAT PEOPLE, and we're thrilled to be joined by film writer and genuine English person Esmé Holden! We talk Schrader's depiction(s) of women, remakes, zoos as prisons/prisons as zoos, and the David Bowie of it all. Excited for you to have John Heard this one, folks! Hey, come on. I'm just kidding around. Further Reading: "Guilty Pleasures: The Films of Paul Schrader" by Neil Sinyard "Schrader's Women: Cat People and Patty Hearst" by Brian Brems Carceral Space, Prisoners, and Animals Symposium Further Viewing: CAT PEOPLE (Tourneur, 1942) THE HUNGER (Scott, 1983) ANATOMY OF HELL (Breillat, 2004) Follow Esmé Holden: https://x.com/esmesayss https://esmesnotes.substack.com/   https://www.podcastyforme.com/ Follow Pod Casty For Me: https://twitter.com/podcastyforme https://www.instagram.com/podcastyforme/ https://www.youtube.com/@podcastyforme Support us on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/PodCastyForMe Artwork by Jeremy Allison: https://www.instagram.com/jeremyallisonart