In 2013, Paul Schrader directed deeply troubled recent child actress Lindsay Lohan and porn star/human Quagmire James Deen from a script by literary dolt Bret Easton Ellis in a crowdfunded, low-budget curio about the vapid cruelty of modern Los Angeles. THE CANYONS was widely disregarded on release, but has steadily grown in esteem by some particularly movie-brained folks. Will we be among them? What about our guest, writer Charles Lyons-Burt? You'll have to listen to find out! Spoiler: we both despised the experience of watching this, and reading other people's appreciations of it made us feel insane. But Charles makes some compelling arguments! Good ep, please don't get too mad at us. Further Reading: "In Lindsay's Stardust Orbit" by Braxton Pope "Paul Schrader's 'The Canyons'" by Richard Brody "Here Is What Happens When You Cast Lindsay Lohan in Your Movie" by Stephen Rodrick Paul Schrader interviewed for Salon by Daniel D'Addario Further Viewing: AMERICAN GIGOLO (Schrader, 1980) THE COMFORT OF STRANGERS (Schrader, 1990) THE 15:17 TO PARIS (Eastwood, 2018) THE KILLING OF A CHINESE BOOKIE (Cassavetes, 1976)   Follow Charles Lyons-Burt: https://x.com/aridabyss https://www.slantmagazine.com/author/clyonsburt/   Follow Pod Casty For Me: https://www.podcastyforme.com/ https://twitter.com/podcastyforme https://www.instagram.com/podcastyforme/ https://www.youtube.com/@podcastyforme Support us on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/PodCastyForMe Artwork by Jeremy Allison: https://www.instagram.com/jeremyallisonart