In this episode, Resources for the Future President and CEO Richard G. Newell speaks to former US Secretary of the Interior, Sally Jewell. Jewell served as Interior Secretary in the Obama administration from 2013 to 2017 and is currently a Global Board Member of The Nature Conservancy, where she previously served as interim CEO. Their conversation took place on April 7. The Policy Leadership Series (PLS) Podcast features leading global decisionmakers who discuss big environmental and energy policy issues. The PLS Podcast is produced by Resources for the Future. Find video recordings of PLS events at rff.org/pls and receive updates about Resources for the Future events and podcasts by visiting rff.org/subscribe.