On the third episode of Season 5 of Politricking with Tshidi Madia, Dr Naledi Pandor, who after of 30 years in government has decided to hang her boots, joins Tshidi to speak about how government should be functioning in this administration while voicing her thoughts on the GNU. She shares where it went wrong for the ANC and what it would take for the ANC to get back in the people’s good books. She reflects on former President Jacob Zuma and state capture. Lastly she talks about the threats she has received for South Africa’s stance on Israel while she was International Relations Minister and what life looks like for her now after retirement. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.