In a special edition of the ABP podcast series, recorded to mark National Career Development Month November 2023, we hear Dawn Nicholson in conversation with Rob Feltham. Drawing a highly successful career which has spanned business and academia, Dawn has led pioneering initiatives for the Association for Business Psychology which have included building the ABP’s university accreditation programme and developing the ground-breaking Biz Psych cup – both of which are discussed in the podcast. During the discussion Dawn provides an extremely clear overview of the ABP’s approach to development and certification of business psychologists, and highlights the significant benefits that qualified psychologists can offer to organisations, particularly once they learn to adapt their knowledge and data-analytical skills to the practical issues facing business. Dawn also points out similarities and differences between the ABP and British Psychological Society certification processes, which are in some ways complementary. Other topics covered include intergenerational job sharing and the contribution of flexible employment practices to business success. Dawn worked for almost 28 years in internal Human Resources (HR) roles and as an advisor to HR, in professional and financial services in the City of London. She spent 3 years as a Partner in PwC's HR Consulting business, working with clients on their people-related issues and on PwC's client diversity offering. Prior to PwC, Dawn was Managing Director, Deputy Head of Human Resources for Europe, The Middle East and Africa, for the global investment bank, Morgan Stanley, where she worked for 16 years. Dawn was responsible for areas including reward, benefits, diversity, employee engagement, learning and development and recruiting. During that time, she also worked closely with internal employee diversity networks. Before joining Morgan Stanley, Dawn spent 9 years at Arthur Andersen advising clients on employee-related tax and HR issues. Dawn retired from PwC in June 2013 and returned to academia to pursue her primary passion - understanding and improving group decision-making processes. She was awarded her PhD in group decision-making in the School of Psychology at Kent in 2019 and now lectures in Business and Organisational Psychology at Kent, where she is currently the Programme Director for the MSc Organisational and Business Psychology. Dawn is Vice Chair and Head of University Accreditation for the ABP. Rob Feltham is Podcast Editor of The ABP.