In this episode we talk to Gedi (Gediminas) Siuskus, Senior Product Manager in Sopra Steria.  Throughout his career Gedi has had both Product and Project Manager roles, and we discuss the sometimes clear and sometimes confusing differences between them. We also get into public vs private companies, we discuss a public form so bad that it made Halina cry, and we manage to confuse the words Project and Product several times during the conversation. Reach out to Hans-Martin, Gedi or Halina on the Produktleder.no Slack, or on LinkedIn if you want to discuss this topic further or want to join the pod as a guest. Links from the episode:  Origo: https://www.oslo.kommune.no/etater-foretak-og-ombud/oslo-origo/#gref Martin Eriksson: https://martineriksson.com His book on Product Leadership: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/30014114-product-leadership Hackathons: https://www.techstars.com/events https://www.eventbrite.com/d/online/hackathon/