Michael Benneman Sams was one of life’s losers, a little man with big, bad ideas. He snatched his victims and held them to ransom locked in a wheelie bin. Birmingham estate agent Stephanie Slater walked free when her employers paid £175,000. Julie Dart, a teenager from Leeds, wasn’t so lucky. She escaped from the wheelie bin, triggering Sams’s silent alarm. He murdered her before she could break out of his workshop in Newark, Nottinghamshire, and dumped her body in a field in Lincolnshire. But the police caught up with Sams. His ex-wife and son had long memories. When they recognised him on BBC Crimewatch they were quick to turn him in. Sams, now 79, will die in prison. This podcast features an exclusive interview with Senior Investigating Officer, Detective Chief Superintendent (retired) Bob Taylor of West Yorkshire Police. The Six O'clock Knock is a Psycho Killer production.