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“It’s so odd that you have two men talking about this… for all ‘the woke’ pushback that exists - have to say this is a deep slumber take on Jezebel.
To have two men talk about this is - not just lame, but irresponsible. Womens mags are mostly dead and Jezebel had a shot at becoming a new voice and was for sometime.. and it’s too bad you can’t quote an article or articulate a moment about why it worked. Ben Smith even said it was pretty darn good…
You also used the word ‘shrill’ which cracks me up… You also talked about a ‘lack of experience of these journalists’ - which feels off. When young male journalists rise up they are wundekinds … but here you demean the female journalists as rising too fast/too young. Do you hear yourself? I’m finally saying something bc I heard another episode here where two men were wondering out loud where all the top female media executives are and then without any irony said out loud - ‘huh, they all seem to have disappeared…’ I think they call that the actual glass ceiling? Right?
What worked so beautifully about Jezebel - which really did outlast gawker - is women were talking to women as actual humans (and funny to boot) and not just a gender that was being trained as future consumers for advertisers. They couldn’t make it bc, it turns out - not only did most of these media companies die bc the ad model didn’t work - but bc there isn’t some billionaire tech female who will buy this … it’s all men. And men don’t get it. You two clearly don’t.
It’s just odd. Can you guys see that you are being deaf here? I’m an old lady (a performative turn of phrase but im not jezebels demo) and I’m not trying to come at you - I’m trying to have you take a moment and think about how you’re talking and what you are saying..It lacks nuance, complexity and real thought and sure, your sexism is showing. This is what sexism looks like.”
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