I'm so sorry for the "echo" I tried everything to get the edited interview without this minor effect. I hope to have that fixed by the time we do another sister podcast interview which would be with 'OWL Once was lost podcast" The missing person podcast and companion tool to "OWL Once was lost missing person phone app" on ios and android. For information on this episode and how to get Anthony's books including everything about Tome Time then please go and subscribe and remember to give us both a 5-star rating if you enjoyed this interview. The 5-star rating on Apple podcasts is the most important (including for the FREE phone app in the app store) and anywhere else you listen.