Matthew White has been a Director Sportif for Team Jayco–AlUla since they entered the World Tour as Orica Green-Edge back in 2017. But to Bobby and Jens, he’s still their old mate Whitey. We hear about his route into the professional peloton, from the tiny Australian team he shared with Jens to the mighty Discovery - hear about his Tour de France heartbreak as a rider… and victories as a team boss. We discover the truth about the team bus that got wedged under the Tour de France finish line and what he thinks needs to change in the world of professional cycling to keep the sport fair.  Bobby and Jens is a Shocked Giraffe production for Velo. This episode was produced and edited by Mark Payne . Remember to follow Bobby and Jens on social media Facebook https://www.facebook.com/people/Bobby-and-Jens/100093419004559/ Threads: https://threads.net/@bobbyandjens YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLdm7tkA_shHCsL0o1sV8biElMZd8-2y-g Twitter: https://twitter.com/bobbyandjens Get the Outside Watch app to stream films and series wherever you go: https://outside.watch/ios https://outside.watch/android Follow Outside Watch for the latest and greatest: Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/outsidewatch/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/outsidewatch/ Get unlimited access to articles, courses, premium films, series & more with Outside+ The one subscription to fuel all your adventures: https://outside.watch/Plus