Listen to the fifth podcast in our monthly series, 'in conversation with' Nick C Jones, Director of PwC's Public Sector Research Centre. The latest in our monthly podcast series, examining the topic of improving collaboration to deliver better outcomes, reflecting on the findings from our workshop on skills, jobs and growth in Leeds, and the lessons for collaboration across sectors. For this discussion Nick is joined by Dr Henry Kippin, Director of Collaborate.  They discuss whole system working – its potential to transform people's lives and what it means for how government, social enterprises and private sector organisations interact.