C.R. Sanders joins us to talk about his new Discovery Channel series — hosted by the legendary Mitch Horowitz — Alien Encounters: Fact or Fiction. When I heard that the newest Discovery channel UFO show was being produced by someone with such an accomplished occult background, I knew it was going to be something unique, and it does not disappoint. We explore the complex nature of the wider UFO / UAP subject, and its relationship with the Faerie realms and Otherworlds of mythology and folklore. We dip our toes into the wild "disclosure" news of the past few years, and wonder if there's any significance to the replacement of the word "object" with "phenomenon," in the recent reclassification of UFO with UAP by the powers that be. C.R. also shares some of his surreal and synchronistic adventures on site and in pursuit of experiencing the phenomenon.  SHOW NOTES: C.R.'s Website: https://lalanomicon.com/ Alien Encounters: Fact or Fiction: https://go.discovery.com/show/alien-encounters-fact-or-fiction-discovery-atve-us MUSIC: "Stormy Point / Back of Beyond / The Seamstress" off the album Fable & Fire by Andrew Marlin - https://www.andrewmarlin.com