The second week of 2024, we see a drop of temperatures in the Netherlands. To all the Dutch this brings back memories of cold winters with lots of skating outdoors. Pretty dangerous if you try skating on the thin ice now, unless the skate track is artificially  created by pouring water on a parking lot. But anyhow, for Radio 4 Brainport a reason to replay a program from a couple of years ago. Hosts and guests: Stephen Harianto, Martin Beekhuis, Anton Alexeev and Jean-Paul Linnartz --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/podcasts-4-brainport/message