In this episode of "Podcast for Brainport," host Iman Mossavat interviews Gerrit Muller, a distinguished systems engineer and professor at the University of South-Eastern Norway. Muller, with extensive experience including his role as a senior research fellow at TNO-ESI, discusses the intersection of systems engineering and artificial intelligence (AI). He illustrates the importance of a systems perspective using examples from his work on MRI scanners and explores the evolving role of AI in this field. Muller addresses common misconceptions about AI, challenges related to data quality, transparency, and interpretability. He highlights the complementary roles of Model-Based Systems Engineering (MBSE) and AI, emphasizing the need for a balanced approach to avoid over-reliance on AI while using its potential to improve system design and analysis. Special thanks to Kutlwano Khunou for his assistance.