This is the twentieth episode of the Conversations Series, and in this  episode a triology of conversations with the renowned award-winning sociologist Professor Liah Greenfeld is introduced, where we apply theories on nationalism and modernity to the Russion invasion of Ukraine.  First, we probe Russia's national identity and consciousness, seeking to understand how its historical and cultural roots may shape its ambition to 'reclaim' territories perceived as inherently Russian. This analysis sets the stage for understanding the invasion within the 'Greater Russia' narrative. Next, we explore the influence of modernity on Russia's geopolitical power dynamics, viewing the Ukrainian invasion as a manifestation of Russia's power assertion in the modern world. We then contrast Russia's and Ukraine's unique paths to nationhood. The distinct trajectories, influenced by historical, cultural, and institutional contexts, illuminate the tensions between the two nations. Finally, we delve into the role of elites. We discuss how fluid societal norms and elite strategies in Russia shape national goals, such as the narrative of reclaiming Ukraine. ---------------------------------------------- Music for the Conversation Series is generously provided by the Shavnabada Choir . The project author and the host of the Conversation Series is Dr. Tornike Metreveli. ---------------------------------------------- Religion and Theology is produced by Joel Kuhlin for the Center for Theology and Religious Studies. If you have comments or critique of this episode, or any other episodes of R&T, please contact us via the podcast's twitteraccount: @reloteol.