Brian and Murdock explore the bad blood, big egos, and excellent alt rock that define the relationships Billy Corgan has with the rest of the musicians who made up the original Smashing Pumpkins line-up. The guys investigate what happened to that one original member who has never come back to the fold. SHOW NOTES: The 2009 radio call: https://youtu.be/GwiUAfWo-Nk?si=cp5U7gIj_NOj210f https://www.reddit.com/r/SmashingPumpkins/comments/1cvsw9r/what_really_happened_between_billy_corgan_james/ The 2018 Alternative Nation Interview: https://www.alternativenation.net/smashing-pumpkins-bassist-darcy-first-interview-in-20-years/#google_vignette The 2018 text messages: https://www.alternativenation.net/smashing-pumpkins-darcy-shares-billy-corgan-guns-n-roses-reunion-offer/ The Billy interviewing D’arcy clip (1994): https://youtu.be/1qIhtKkrnuM?si=W011LiA_1GJoo0_Z https://www.nova.ie/billy-corgan-reveals-entire-relationship-darcy-started-argument-113430/ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dan_Reed_Network https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jimmy_Chamberlin https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Smashing_Pumpkins https://www.reddit.com/r/SmashingPumpkins/comments/hj38gf/new_fan_what_happened_between_billy_and_darcy/ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gish https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siamese_Dream https://faroutmagazine.co.uk/messy-story-behind-smashing-pumpkins-split/ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jimmy_Chamberlin https://faroutmagazine.co.uk/messy-story-behind-smashing-pumpkins-split/ https://faroutmagazine.co.uk/when-pavement-penned-a-track-to-insult-the-smashing-pumpkins/ https://forums.netphoria.org/showthread.php?t=145628 https://english.elpais.com/culture/2023-10-29/why-the-smashing-pumpkins-bassist-disappeared-without-a-trace.html https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/D%27arcy_Wretzky https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Iha https://forums.stevehoffman.tv/threads/the-downfall-of-darcy-wretzky.465910/page-6 https://chicagoradiospotlight.blogspot.com/2008/08/manno-brothers.html https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-news/smashing-pumpkins-explain-darcy-absence-ahead-of-rumored-reunion-253666/ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mickey_Rourke