Kooks and Thala talk to Irish journalist for the 42 Murray Kinsella to look at the Ireland side touring South Africa for the test series. We discuss what the opponents are in each country and why there is a lot of back and forth on social media between the two sides. We talk about the possibility of Jamie Osborne starting at fullback and what he possibly brings, why this is a massive test for Craig Casey, what the inclusion of Kwagga Smith means for the Boks and why Luke Pearce will have his work cut out in reffing the rucks and scrums. Listen to why South Africans love to hate Joe McCarthy, Murray’s interaction with an enthusiastic Uber driver and Ireland’s time with the School of Hard Knocks.