Being a first-time CEO can be a daunting transition filled with risk and opportunity, something that TCW Group President and CEO Katie Koch has experienced firsthand. In today’s episode, Clarke and Hoda talk with Katie about her career journey in the financial industry, from her early years as an intern at Goldman Sachs to becoming a first-time CEO at TCW. She shares what it takes to be a good leader and the skills needed to make tough decisions and take people where they may not want to go, including empathy, asking questions and listening, discipline of process, and the importance of having a great coach. She also shares her thoughts on how to navigate volatile global markets and the inherent friction of AI and business transformation.    We'll also hear from Sean Dineen, a Managing Director in our Boston office, who will outline what it takes to succeed in the first few days and months as a new CEO.    If you enjoyed this episode, you might also like these Redefiners episodes:  Unpacking Leadership Lessons with Marriott International President and CEO Tony Capuano Leadership Lounge: How to nail your first year as CEO In the Fast Lane: A Conversation with FIA CEO Natalie Robyn Planting Long-Term Investment Seeds with Markel Group CEO Tom Gayner Opening Hearts and Minds on Late Night News with MSNBC’s Stephanie Ruhle