What can we learn from someone who has spent a large part of his career taking software things and bringing them to the hardware world? A lot it turns out. In this episode of Business Agility Now, Adam talks to SAFe® Fellow and Methodologist Harry Koehnneman. The two discuss topics including the significant challenges the hardware industry faces and why hardware organizations have been slower to adopt Agile ways of working compared to software organizations. Harry also shares how growing recognition of the integration of hardware and software in complex systems has sparked him and his team to bring guidance and best practices for applying SAFe to hardware. Like what you hear? Connect with Harry on LinkedIn. Explore SAFe courses here.