In this episode, Mary Conquest speaks with Greg Smith, an international award-winning author and qualified lawyer who has spent more than two decades specializing in Safety and Health management. Greg is also regarded as a leading provider of Safety training, particularly in the areas of management responsibilities and contractor safety management. Describing himself as ‘Safety agnostic’, Greg doesn’t care how HSE professionals approach Workplace Safety - he just wants to help you be effective. However, he knows how challenging this can be and explains why Safety is a ‘wicked problem’ that is essentially unsolvable. Gregs discusses the impact of legal frameworks on Safety Management and shares real-life examples of the unintended consequences of the criminalization of Safety. Safety processes and measurement are the key themes of this fascinating conversation, as Greg highlights where the profession has become disconnected from its purpose and how this can be addressed. Greg’s highly acclaimed book:  Paper Safe Greg recommends the following podcasts: Safety Labs by Slice The Safety of Work Speak Rebranding Safety Also this subscription service: OHS Alert | Premium Workplace health and safety news And Ben Hutchinson’s research: Ben Hutchinson | LinkedIn Greg Smith on LinkedIn: Greg Smith | LinkedIn Safety Labs is created by Slice, the only safety knife on the market with a finger-friendly® blade. Find out more: www.sliceproducts.com If you have any questions, please email us at [email protected]