This is episode 706. Read the complete transcription on the Sales Game Changers Podcast website. The Sales Game Changers Podcast was recognized by YesWare as the top sales podcast. Read the announcement here. Read more about the Institute for Excellence in Sales Premier Women in Sales Employer (PWISE) designation and program here. Purchase Fred Diamond's best-sellers Love, Hope, Lyme: What Family Members, Partners, and Friends Who Love a Chronic Lyme Survivor Need to Know and Insights for Sales Game Changers now! Today's show featured an interview with Jason Adolf, Vice President - Global Public Sector Vertical at Appian. JASON'S TIP:  "For people who sell to the government, shed the COVID mindset. You need to go out, find a trade show, find an industry day, find a networking event, and go register for it and go. Your government customers are coming out. Your partners are going to be there. Washington tends to be a very incestuous community as far as trading people. If you are not out there, somebody else is. Your competitor is out there. If you are not out there, you’re not top of mind."