We enjoyed having Eric from Monsters vs. Men ( http://www.mvmpod.com/ ) on so much we decided to keep the conversation going! *Topics discussed:* Eric’s journey from film snob to toku fan; whether films and shows are as effective in encouraging change compared to literature; fandom obsessions, expectations, and how this can shape one’s identity; Eric’s journey through the MCU with his wife; and the concept of the “sympathetic antagonist.” *Monsters vs. Men:* Website ( http://www.mvmpod.com/ ) | Twitter ( http://www.twitter.com/mvm_pod ) | Patreon ( http://www.patreon.com/mvmpod ) *Freddie deBoer:* “Annoying Connoisseurs Make Things Better for the Rest of Us” ( https://freddiedeboer.substack.com/p/annoying-connoisseurs-make-things ) *David’s article:* Godzilla vs. Chomsky ( https://tokutheologian.substack.com/p/godzilla-vs-chomsky ) *Podcast cover artwork:* Klenda V ( http://instagram.com/andie_pavlat ) *Intro:* “Careless Whisper” by George Michael (please don’t sue us) *Outro:* “Careless Whisper” feat. Robyn Adele Anderson & Dave Koz by Postmodern Jukebox *Have listener feedback? Need prayer?* http://www.atrociouspod.com/contact *For more info, visit* http://www.atrociouspod.com ( http://www.atrociouspod.com/ ) *Saved by the Belial* is an official podcast partner of the Tokusatsu Network. ( https://app.redcircle.com/shows/768994b1-3f52-4e4d-a406-453c4083bb70/ep/afec65eb-7d6f-4aa2-b4fb-858f827dbbdd/tokusatsunetwork.com )