In episode 4 of the podcast "Scam Rangers," Julie Conroy, the Head of Risk Insights and Advisory at Aita-Novarica group and I talk about online scams and the perspectives of both financial institutions and consumers. We discuss the gap between what banks think they're doing to educate and protect customers from scams, and how it's being received by consumers. This podcast is hosted by Ayelet Biger-Levin [https://www.linkedin.com/in/ayelet-biger-levin/], who spent the last 15 years building technology to help financial institutions authenticate their customers and identify fraud. She beleives that when it comes to scams, the story starts well before the transaction. She has created this podcast to talk about the human side of scams, and to learn from people who have decided to dedicate their lives to speaking up on behalf of scam victims and who take action to solve this problem. Be sure to follow her on LinkedIn and reach out to learn about her additional activities in this space.