In a slightly different style of episode we talk to comedian Ray Ellin. We discuss how social media has changed comedy, hear some magnificent failure anecdotes from comedy clubs and bars and talk through the process of creating comedy. Ray talks us through his love of live standup, working in tv and why he made a podcast about Little House on the Prairie. We also cover cancel culture, Aruba and The Magic Castle. A fun and fascinating romp through entertainment through a different lens.