In today's episode of the Second in Command podcast, Cameron is joined by Joe Minarik, Chief Operating Officer for DataBank, a provider of enterprise-class data center, cloud, and interconnection services. During the conversation, Cameron and Joe dive into the challenges and rewards of transitioning into a new leadership role within a different organizational culture. He highlights how listening and relationship-building are key to earning the trust and respect of team members, especially when managing expectations and setting priorities in an evolving business environment. You'll discover the importance of coaching and developing people within an organization. With an emphasis on talent growth and empowerment, Joe explains how the success of a business relies heavily on cultivating the strengths of its team, rather than simply focusing on technical tasks or immediate business needs. This episode offers valuable advice from Joe's years of experience, emphasizing the power of patience, learning from those on the front lines, and focusing on problem-solving as a way to fuel personal and professional growth. If you've enjoyed this episode of the Second in Command podcast, be sure to leave a review and subscribe today! Enjoy! In This Episode You'll Learn: Why many employees leave high-paying jobs at hyperscalers to return to smaller companies with a better culture and more fulfilling work. (9:16)The technical aspects of data centers, including latency, connectivity, and the importance of being close to population zones. (13:05)Joe's background in system administration and network engineering, and how he transitioned from technical roles to management and business leadership. (19:33)The difficulties of meeting people virtually and the importance of face-to-face interactions in building trust and understanding. (23:53)And much more... Resources: Subscribe, Rate & Review I'd love you to subscribe to the podcast and leave an honest rating & review. This will encourage others to listen and grow as a community. YouTube - Second In Command Podcast - https://www.youtube.com/@secondincommandpodcast YouTube - Cameron Herold Leadership - https://www.youtube.com/@CameronHerold COO Alliance - https://cooalliance.com/ Cameron’s newest book - The Second In Command - Unleash The Power Of Your COOCameron’s Online Leadership Course - https://investinyourleaders.com/ch  Cameron’s Website - https://cameronherold.com/ Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/cameron_herold_cooalliance/