In this unique episode of the Second in Command podcast, Cameron is joined by Rod Neuenschwander, co-founder of Gift·Ology with the late John Ruhlin, author of “Giftology.” During the conversation, Rod shares key lessons learned from years of experience in leadership and organizational growth. You'll discover the value of preparing successors early on to ensure the longevity of a company's vision and culture.  Cameron and Rod explore how documenting personal operating systems and thought processes can enhance team collaboration and ensure others understand leadership decisions. You'll hear how Rod, early in his career, created a "ruling way" to clarify his decision-making style, allowing others to better align with his approach. This episode offers a more dynamic approach to business, combining steady leadership with bold creativity, a blend that's essential to navigating complex business environments. If you've enjoyed this episode of the Second in Command podcast, be sure to leave a review and subscribe today! Enjoy! In This Episode You'll Learn: How Rod met John Ruhlin (the late co-founder) and their initial business ventures. (11:39)Rod's role as the brains behind Gift·Ology, which allowed John Ruhlin (the late co-founder) to focus on his strengths. (19:10)The initial emotional impact of John's passing and the need for a logical plan. (24:32)The concept of "The Ruling Way" and how it helped Rod document his thought process. (35:00)And much more... Resources: Subscribe, Rate & Review I'd love you to subscribe to the podcast and leave an honest rating & review. This will encourage others to listen and grow as a community. YouTube - Second In Command Podcast - https://www.youtube.com/@secondincommandpodcast YouTube - Cameron Herold Leadership - https://www.youtube.com/@CameronHerold COO Alliance - https://cooalliance.com/ Cameron’s newest book - The Second In Command - Unleash The Power Of Your COOCameron’s Online Leadership Course - https://investinyourleaders.com/ch  Cameron’s Website - https://cameronherold.com/ Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/cameron_herold_cooalliance/ Paul Graham article ‘Founder Mode’Connect with Cameron: Website | LinkedInConnect with Rod: Website | LinkedIn