Onward Creative Art Director and Artist Noa Emberson joins us to discuss the ins and outs of working with clients and gives practical tips on successfully directing a design team. How do you avoid an endless loop of revisions? How do you get properly compensated for your work? What does a client look for in a designer or creative agency? This one is a topical, insightful look into the way a creative's brain works (with another zany round of "This or That"). Join us for episode 17 of Secondary Colors! Mahalo as always to our Producer Dale Rutledge (@thewalkingdale) Broadcast from Nick Kuchar Shop in beautiful Kailua Town, O'ahu, Hawaii.