Magnus Olden, CTO at Domos, comes to telco API from an IT and Wi-Fi background and works to make API less complex, more easily usable and valuable to application developers. We talked about what app developers need, and how their perspective can be very different from that of operators and the telco ecosystem. How could we get telcos and app developers to both benefit from API? How can we get APIs to also cover Wi-Fi access? What are the implications for API adoption and monetization? We squeezed a lot in our half-hour conversation. I highly recommend the meeting that Magnus organized recently (and that convinced me to write my upcoming report on network APIs) Sign up for the mailing list at https://senzafili.com/senza-fili-mailing-list/ to receive invitations to the live Sparring Partners events Send us feedback, questions, and suggestions for guests and topics at [email protected]  You can subscribe to the podcast on the platform of your choice, including Apple and Spotify More on Senza Fili at https://senzafili.com