Ben Levenson is the Chairman of The Levenson Foundation and founder of Origins Behavioral HealthCare. Ben chats with Valerie and Carly about harm reduction, or ways to “derisk” drug use for the millions of people who use drugs in the United States, and the gap between “the bench and the trench,” or between scientific findings and addiction treatment. Ben talks about international approaches to drug use and leaves Valerie and Carly with some excellent food for thought about the need to end stigma towards all people who use drugs, not just people in recovery from drug use disorders.  Read more about Ben’s work with the Levenson Foundation here: https://levensonfoundation.org/ Read about the Rome Consensus here: https://romeconsensus.com/  Read about the National Harm Reduction Coalition here: https://harmreduction.org/  Follow Ben on Twitter: @BenLevenson