In this episode of ShipTalk we are joined by Santiago Campuzano. Santiago is a Lead DevOps Engineer at GumGum and has seen his fair share of distributed systems.  Santiago used to build distributed Java/JEE applications for the financial sector and has gone through the early days of containerization leveraging technologies such as Apache Mesos and Apache Marathon before leveraging Kubernetes.  We go through in the episode describing the time right before containerization became popular to the journey that Santiago and firms have been on ever since.  Santiago has also published an excellent blog describing concerns and different points of view when implementing K8s at scale. Blog: https://medium.com/gumgum-tech/implementing-kubernetes-the-hidden-part-of-the-iceberg-part-1-76c3e9684d49