With Toni back from Bilbao, he looks back on Barcelona's goalless draw against Athletic Club on Sunday with Sam. How bad was it? What was the ambition comment that so irked Marc-Andre ter Stegen? How long will Frenkie de Jong be out? Will Pedri ever get back to his best? Who plays in midfield now? Plus: Late refereeing controversy as Real Madrid held by Valencia.  Support the showFor bonus content, including additional podcasts, Q&As, special collections and Discord access to join the discussion with other Barça fans, join our Patreon: patreon.com/siemprepod